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Bed time Shenannigans. Assvice needed, Internet!

December 23, 2008
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Now then – I’ve never been one for rushing a child…. but…. Rowan is still in pullups at night and I have had just about enough of buying them. My purse would like a break, people!

When it came to getting dry in the day time – we were very easy going about it. I wasn’t interested in pushing her into using the toilet. We were both keen for her to use a toilet in preference to a potty but only really because we couldn’t be arsed to teach her the same thing twice for two different recepticles. It seemed like a huge waste of time to me.

Plus – the thought of emptying potties made me want to gip. Plop plop puke.

[And I’m lazy.]

In addition to this we were expecting Ella and I really didn’t relish the thought of being pinned to the sofa, breast feeding a baby with Eau de Poop circulating the room and being unable to do anything about it or the poopy bum running round the house.

Fast forward this to 8 month old baby dipping hands/face/feet/toys into potty offerings whilst I never get there in time because I’m trying to catch the pooey bum running round the living room and the idea just didn’t appeal.

Nope! Toilet for us – and she has never had a problem with that at all – she is an ace wizard genius on the toilet and doesn’t know any different. So other than that – we were very keen for her to do what she wanted when she was ready.

After briefly trying to start TT when she was two (we admitted defeat), we figured when she was ready to start using the toilet, she would be ready and she would lead the way. It happened very like that and a year or so later she was three, she started to show an interest and we have only had about 3 accidents in the day where she hasn’t made it to the bathroom in time. She’s been very calm about the whole transition. There was a slight reluctance on the pooping front but she got over that when we acted with some advice from my sister.

However – I was adamant that the same approach would work at night. Let her lead the way and all will be well with the world. She’ll do it when she’s ready.. she’ll figure it out when the time is right…

And as yet – it has not been right. I, however, am ready. Sick of paying out for pullups that I know we could do without and sick of washing, drying bed linen, stripping beds and Dettoling mattresses twice a week. (BN shush – artistic license gets to say that I do it – technically you and I are a team so keep your mouth shut! 😉   )

The problem is that far from getting dryer at night she still fills a pull-up to the brim every night to the point where probably  30% of mornings she is wet around the legs, she has leaked onto her jamas and her bed. Last Sunday being one of those days. She will not act on needing a wee in the mornings even though we have repeatedly told her that if she’s awake in the morning she needs to go to the bathroom just as she does in the day. She wees into her already full pullups without thinking anything of it and is then surprised when it leaks everywhere. We’ve explained that because her pullups are usually already full, they will probably leak, she still pees in them.

She doesn’t have drinks late at night – they are always bugging us for drinks at bed time and they go wanting.

We have tried to tell her that now she is 4 she’s a big girl and maybe she should go to bed without pullups and she’s all very excited about that until bedtime and then she doesn’t want to risk it.

I don’t want to push her – but I am kinda thinking that by now – she should be over this, no?

So – I am opening myself up to the assvice from the Internet.

Does anyone have a tried and tested method that they’re sure will work as long as we follow your simple rules? Does anyone have any new ideas they’ve read somewhere else? Anyone know how to explain to a child that they have to train their wee to stay in, like they do in the day?

I need help internet! Come on donuts!! What you got for me? 🙂

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9 Comments leave one →
  1. December 23, 2008 10:33 am

    We just made the boy. It was hell at first – multiple sheet changes each night, but gradually he’s getting it. We made a point of waking him twice each night (helps that I go to bed at about 11 and Y often goes around 3) and gradually we’ve cut back on that to the point where most nights he’s dry now. Mothercare do excellent plastic sheets with no fabric attached which have definitely made life much easier!

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  2. December 23, 2008 10:53 am

    We’ve done it 3 times

    With F we just told him he was staying at Granny and Grandads and they don’t allow wet beds!
    He was ready but needed a push. They woke him at 10pm and again at around 6am I think (long time ago) plastic sheet just in case.
    M just did it, told me she didn’t like wet pull ups in the am so I told her not to wee in them! also got woken at 10 and 6, maybe more if I heard her stirring in the night.

    With K just the wake ups.

    It has never in my experience worked if you leave them in pull ups, they are warm and cosy and there is no down side to the actual pee, after, if they wake up uncomfortable it doesn’t trigger, the trigger is, it is nasty to wake up cold and wet.

    Good luck

    oh and I don’t think Christmas or big change in life (bn going to work) is a good time to try, so inbetween if there is time or a month after if not? :o)

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  3. December 23, 2008 10:55 am

    as a plus he’s now spending the whole night dry only going to the toilet before going to bed… 🙂
    and of course… he chooses the one night that he sleeps on our bed to pee…
    yup that’s last night for ya…

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  4. December 23, 2008 8:42 pm

    yeah i agree with the no pullups idea. put a plastic sheet on and just go cold turkey with no nappies, they’re just confusing her, i bet. worst that can happen is that she’ll wet the bed a few times but if that’s already going on then it’s no worse and the chances are she’ll get it after a couple of nights, or even straight away. also REWARD CHART for dry bed in the morning. they are amazing things. a sticker for the chart every morning and 7 stickers = a special treat. maybe new knickers or new pyjamas or something bed related?

    one feisty mama´s last blog post..Are the turkeys made of gold this year?

  5. December 24, 2008 12:50 am

    Fran, dry at 3, undry by 4, didn’t get dry again reliable till she was nearly 8. Stopped wearing pull ups only at about 7.

    Maddy, dry at about 6, lifted her for a while, now mostly reliable. (Will wet tonight now.)

    Amelie, exactly like Rowan, took pull ups away, dry overnight, completely reliable (apart from tonight now, obviously, as i have tempted fate.)

    Josie has random nights without pull ups and is then almost aways dry but mostly still wears pull up with no sign of stopping.

    My advice? Take em away. You have 2 chances, it will work, or it won’t!

    (Aren’t i good!!!!!)

    Merry´s last blog post..Rather Brilliant Bedrooms.

  6. December 24, 2008 5:48 am

    No drinks after dinner at all. Underwear – pull ups give them mixed messages.
    Wake them and take them to the loo around 11 (sleep walking…) if they sit and don’t go, turn a tap on. As daft as it sounds it is quite interesting seeing a little one almost falling alseep and wobbling on the toilet….. Maybe try again about 3am…. and a reward if they are dry in the morning may make her get up and want to go to the loo and prove she can do it to you…? Good luck…

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  7. December 24, 2008 11:39 am

    thanks everyone… I am going to start this when BN’s been at work for about a week I think..
    Taking on board that Christmas is probably not a good time to try it.. but I have bought some absorbent sheets, we just need to buy a couple of spare sheets I think as we only have 4 between the two girls.

    Then we’re set – I shall keep you posted!

  8. December 24, 2008 2:55 pm

    As predicted, Fran wet the bed last night 😀

    Merry´s last blog post..Rather Brilliant Bedrooms.

  9. December 24, 2008 5:13 pm

    LOL – That’s just not fair is it!!!

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